What would you do if you were called to be our Pastor?

Without hesitation, I said, "I just want to be part of a healthy church."

was asked the question twice in one week. The first time on a podcast interview that I did from my home. The second time on a podcast interview that I did on the road.

The first time, I stumbled on the answer. The second time I knew exactly what I wanted to say.

“So, where are you seeing signs of hope in the Church today?”

Honestly, it can sound pretty sad and to start the awkward “do you want to be my friend conversation?” is so humbling. And yet we need it. Our friends are our anvil as we are forged in leadership.